You know, when they got hyped by a speech of their party leader they kind of acted like those feminists from dark side of the moon - more for women less for men, no hippie equality, just rants and fierce shouts about taking back for millenia of slavery done by men, having at least fifty years of almost total rule... angry female mob utopia. It was bizarre and when the lady in front of us sat down after heat of excitment calmed down a little, she gave us this accusing look, like "
hang those f***s!". That was scary as we were, um, two men with maybe seven guys total on a spot full of women, over eighty of them at least, wanting
mankind (sexist word!
le gasp!) to burn.
But after that there were some pretty reasonable lectures about modern issues in general politics, social politics with, of course, heavy emphasizing women-oriented issues. But during talk about social issues one guy stood up (he was along with his friends) and asked what do women's party think about the unfair court cases of rape, childcare in cases of divorce and family violence that work on a loss of a men. Again, like was in our case, they were treated with angry looks. After all, how those pigs can talk about punny male problems on a open debate in woman's party?! The leader,
calm and classy as she always is ignored these questions by saying that "men have enough of privlages already". "So" - his friend took voice - "women attack our most vunreable spot - our children". Then, he told in a brief how his ex-wife took his daughter from him, reduced weekly seeing time to monthly and suing him for more money for children. The judge was female, the jury consisted of woman only
every time he was dragged to the court. This is issue of Polish law society, that only women have chances and respect in family-based cases. Same with jury where, in the best option, there is one male. "
Where's the justice in that?" - he asked with unconcealed bitterness - "
I have my own apartament, good salary, I could handle my child while my ex-wife is living with her parent, living off a part-time jobs and my money. And I have nothing for it. One seeing in a month, one single day.". And in reply, an somewhat unkempt, student-aged girl stood up - "
Maybe she doesn't have a job because of injustices of market dominated by male" to wich man riposted "
She never finished her uni, where she could find a job without it? On a construction site? Tell her that". Silence. I want to laugh, I want to cry. The guy only added that he was everywhere seeking whatever help he could get. To no avail. Every lawyer told him that he has no chances, that he has to mediate on his own with his ex-wife in terms of childcare. Thing is, she said worst of him in the court, accusing him of things he haven't done and wasn't proven to be real, but still, those accusations were took under serious consideration when it came to judgement. He was refused (by judge) to copy transcripts from the cases. He asked again where is justice in that to wich he heard that it's not the place to bring these topics out into the daylight. They stood up, cursed, and went out. The whole place was silent but an atmosphere of hatered was in the air with maybe a little bit of shame of sorts. My friend had a really pissed of face. I asked him if we're leaving, he said yes. At the door he shouted some very nasty words and stuck out his hand with middle finger straight.
So, as I said it was funny. Until then. You can say that the leaders of the party were quite reasonable and talked logicly about, all in all, important stuff but when confronted by a broken father, broken by our broken system with lot's of legistlature errors wich women in our country gladly use for their causes, she was speachless or tried to ignore it. It'll be fine if it was just a women manifest gathering, but it was, if I remember correctly - "
Woman's Party Programme Debate about Social and Ecconomical Issues" or something like that. Magic words.
Debate and
Social. And, as far as I'm concerned, legislature errors that damage social statuses are a good topic to talk about in a debate. So, to ask your questions, after I came home I had mixed (to say lightly) feelings about this whole mess. On the one hand it was a femminist equality & co debate, but on the other hand there was a greater weight of the crowd reaction, the question this guy asked and hypocritic reactions wich lead me to the "
femminazi" (I don't like that word, btw) option.
And as I see in media or read in news most of femminist manifests are quite often in a very mean spirit towards not just a patriarchal world-view but a man himself. About the individual unit with peepee, each and every one of them. Those real femministic debates, not manifests, are reasonable and calm discussions about modern-day issues but no one want's to be bored to death by them in news, right? So the media show femminsts as a crazy, unloved females that never had this peepee mentioned above in their cherry pie or have some psychic imbalance because some event from the past. I have a friend who is a femminist (and she likes and hates me, the latter to the root, at the same time) and she participates in uni debates, internet forums devoted to femminist issues. And I'd never said she's a wacko, maybe a little crazy, but that's not because she's a femminist. But due to medial, focused on sensation news, the image of a femminist in eyes of the most will be still "
an ugly lesbian with thick-glassed spectacles and a pubescence hair under their noses".
Eh, long post, long rant with lot's of grammar errors as I may assume. As always I ask for forgiveness and thank for the patiance for those who cared to read.