Pink lunchbox

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BenRG wrote:
Hell, with a personality like that, I think that she's got a future in US politics!

The US already has an Evil Mega Bitch named Hilary.

Awwww, would you look that. He think he's being insightful. Oh aren't you just precious!

The evil it's spreading.

As someone whose family voted Dem for a long time... I have to admit I laughed pretty hard at this.

That's because you have enough political knowledge to have gotten the joke with no problem.

Gernsback wrote:Am I the only one who sees how childish hillary is?

DarkAngel wrote:
Keep in mind that they're kids here. Things that we, as adults, view as silly can be the most important thing in the world to a child.

From what it looks like. Her mind never really progressed beyond that point. That behavior followed her for a life time. Even with being cruel to Art for the soul purpose of inadvertently being mean to Kat. This time around she has no way to really do anything to Pip for his friendship with Kat.

But animals are at their most dangerous when they are cornered. It makes me wonder how she will take any animosity out on Pip. Who know she might figure out they have enough common ground to put the past behind them and start a new.

CyberCorn Entropic wrote:

ShadOBabe wrote:But then again, I'm an optimist. XD

optimism, n. A unique eye problem, primarily marked by rose-colored vision.

Good thing red is my favorite color!! <3
Heh, but seriously, I usually live by the words "Hope for the best, expect the worst." Maybe that actually means I'm a hopeful realist.

In any case, it wouldn't bother me much if there was no redemption for Hilary. Kat and Hilary's fighting (along with the Squirrel Girls and the Denizens) has ALWAYS gotten a laugh from me. It's a rivalry for the ages. XD

DarkAngel wrote:We don't know that yet. This could just be the begining.

The way I see it, JJ can play this out in one of two ways:
Either Hilary confronts Kat & it escalates to the point that both lunchboxes - & both girls feelings - are destroyed.
Or we see, over the next few strips, several more instances (possibly over the course of their first few years of knowing each other) of Kat inadvertently stealing Hilary's thunder.

I REALLY like that second option. It'd be interesting to see what other ways Kat could unwittingly "copy" Hilary. It would also illustrate how the two are actually similar in their tastes. In another universe they might have been friends. But Hilary decided to see Kat as competition instead of a potential friend.

DarkAngel wrote:Keep in mind that they're kids here. Things that we, as adults, view as silly can be the most important thing in the world to a child.

Precisely. The world of a child is very small. That lunchbox obviously meant a LOT to Hilary.

ShadOBabe wrote:
I REALLY like that second option.

Me too. It is the only way to explain why Kat doesn't know the origin of Hilary's hate towards her.

Considering how much she and Kat have similar tastes and interests, it would be interesting, if it turned out Hilary gave Art a hard time because she liked him, but, as she didn't really know how to relate to him in a friendly manner, used the whole "torture Kat by proxy" thing as an excuse to interact with him. It was sort of a two-for-one thing for her.

ShadOBabe wrote:Heh, but seriously, I usually live by the words "Hope for the best, expect the worst." Maybe that actually means I'm a hopeful realist.

Perhaps you're an agathist. Whereas the optimist is perpetually looking on the bright side (sometimes uplifting, other times just begging to be smacked back into reality), the agathist accepts evil and misfortune but believes things ultimately tend towards the good and improve. Generally speaking, I think the agathist is more aware that, sometimes, things need a helping hand to get there.

CyberCorn Entropic wrote:Considering how much she and Kat have similar tastes and interests, it would be interesting, if it turned out Hilary gave Art a hard time because she liked him, but, as she didn't really know how to relate to him in a friendly manner, used the whole "torture Kat by proxy" thing as an excuse to interact with him. It was sort of a two-for-one thing for her.

I'm not quite sure. Get to SA n°168.
From the dialogue, it seems that her only real target is Kat.

I've been thinking. Yes yes, I know the world will now end, but still.
It would support my theory of why Hilary bulling Kat maybe more about a lunch box, but the lunch box was that the start of it. Or the heart of it.

Perhaps the main reason why that Hilary was soo proud and happy about her new pink pony lunch box was that she grew-up in a family that was not doing well financially, and couldn't easily afford it. Another point that support this is that Hilary was noted to have been in the porn business, and shown it was something she was not all that too proud of, which could easily been used to pay her tenure in college.

Kat on the other hand could have been in a, not a wealthy family, but a bit more well off one. As Kat had braces at a young age, and would wager throughout most of her school years, and braces cost a lot. Though there is little facts to support this, Kat seemed to had a easy time in college. So Kat's family could afford things that Hilary's family couldn't.

Unintentional and from Hilary's perspective, it looked like Kat was flaunting her family's wealth which made Hilary jealous and envious of Kat which turned into hate that fueled her bulling while they were in school. It also quite possible that Kat had recently transferred to that school too.

So, everyone's thoughts on this?

It may be the reason, but I don't think that JJ will ever go this deep or this dark with SA's cast. This comic was going for 7 years and we still know next to nothing about the characters' past, except for Scarlet and Co, but again - not much details. There was not a single bit of drama and I doubt it ever be, will all those Battle Bunnies, Little Victory, Apsara, tons of moleskin sketches, video games, board games, novels, TF2 levels and other stuff that he had on his back and still does.

not_сenaris wrote:This comic was going for 7 years and we still know next to nothing about the characters' past, except for Scarlet and Co, but again - not much details.

What do we know of the Sequential Art main cast's past, anyway?

Art and Pip knew each other in college where they buried or unburied (they did some digging, at any rate) someone or something Pip described as "her", which was causing Art to freak out. At some point, Art acquired his present job and his present home, with Pip as a flatmate.

Kat grew up wearing braces and was bullied throughout school by Hilary and in Denton Junior School by one of her teachers, Ms. Strinpit. Upon entering college, she became roommates with Vanity Thorn, turning the latter from angsty loner to perky social creature using only lots of caffeine, and also had another run-in with Hilary's bullying, this time at a nightclub. Some point after college, she moved in with Art and Pip and got her present job as a photographer in a boutique.

Scarlet and, by extension, the Think-Tank were somehow acquired early in life by Quinten R&D, and used as experimental subjects and a four-unit biocomputer until they were tasked with monitoring OZ-Basic. Scarlet left the facility they were housed in so as to escape a murder attempt by OZ-Basic and fell in with the gang after constant distractions interrupted her attempt to return to the facility.

Leonard was mailed to Kat from some snowless clime as part of an eBuy auction.

Kat killed her teacher at 26, also something happened that brought her alcoholism problem.
Art is afraid of kids and balls.

Nightclub accident I consider a dream sequence, not a flashback.

not_сenaris wrote:Kat killed her teacher at 26, also something happened that brought her alcoholism problem.
Art is afraid of kids and balls.

Nightclub accident I consider a dream sequence, not a flashback.

In Kat's defence, what happened to Ms. Strinpit was an accident. A happy accident, mind you, but it's not like Kat wrote her name in a Death Note or something.

I wouldn't call getting wasted only on New Year's Eve being an alcoholic.

The nightclub incident may have been based an actual memory, but with certian events "twisted" by the dream demon.

Yes. Art fears children & balls. Apparently with good reason.

not_сenaris wrote:Nightclub accident I consider a dream sequence, not a flashback.

Personally, I think it was a distorted memory. Some of it happened (Hilary trying to get Kat barred from entry), other bits (such as the Alley Fighter rip-off, the Goth-chick Fish and the F/F Kiss) was an attempt by the Eldrich Abominations to drive Kat insane.

I too believe that the Nightclub scene was a distorted memory.
Though, I feel that we'll not only will learn more about Hilary in this arch, but also tidbits about their past. If anything just enough for more questions to be asked than answered.
Because I expect JJ to be that evil.

Ah! I forgot Art using a flashlight to send Morse Code messages into space as a child.

not_cenaris wrote:Kat killed her teacher at 26...

DarkAngel's right. It would probably be more accurate to say Strinpit's health and toxic attitude caught up to her. Kat only stood up to Ms. Strinpit's bullying like she should. It apparently wasn't something Strinpit was used to, and the shock was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Art is afraid of kids and balls.

True, although, without any further details, this could simply be the result of standard childhood traumas lingering into adulthood. He probably didn't have many friends growing up and was apparently not athletically inclined (especially considering his reaction in #688). Gym class was very likely a torture session for him.

Nightclub accident I consider a dream sequence, not a flashback.

#631 seems to corroborate Dark Angel, BenRG, and Xan. Kat's line in the third panel indicates that events up to Kat jump-kicking Hilary had happened before.

Kat: "Goin' kitty ninja on you this time, rabbit!"

#631 seems to corroborate Dark Angel, BenRG, and Xan. Kat's line in the third panel indicates that events up to Kat jump-kicking Hilary had happened before.

Kat: "Goin' kitty ninja on you this time, rabbit!"

Couldn’t the previous time be the clothing store fight?

if you go back you will see the nightclub incident was not a memory at all but a lucid nightmare dredged up in the basement of the haunted house. none of it was real.

I know that. I’m just saying that kat may be referring to the store thing.

#637, first panel - it was just a dream.

But!

It doesn't matter, actually, because it changes nothing. If this was a flashback, then what - this was the first time Kat showed her super secret ninja skills(Doesn't work well with bugs)? Or it proves that she can be close with other girl(what she showed enough times in 2006-2007 through peak of JJ's activity of drawing Kat and Scarlet being nice to each other)? Or Hilary and Kat hate each other (...)?

No-thing.

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